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greetings from the third dimension

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you're listening to the paranormal UK

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radio network the biggest UK paranormal

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Network I'm David Young and this is

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paranormal dimensions greetings

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your listings of the paranormal UK radio

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network the UK's biggest paranormal

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Network I'm David Young and this is

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paranormal dimensions now on this

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occasion I'll be speaking with my

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special guest Frank Willis now Frank

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it's Jimmy's life he was born in

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Rhodesia is the trained mercenary in his

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early twenties and had many experiences

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throughout his military life including

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black ops active service in Rhodesia

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South Africa in Colombia Frank CV

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includes working for a infamous drug

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baron and his military life sharing

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first-hand evidence of corruption with

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war money and drugs and how they all in

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Tahlequah government agendas now this

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background has given him a unique

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perspective in uncharred sorry in tyre

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and social interaction now a master in

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martial arts

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he holds two World Records he has three

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degrees in engineering social work in

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education and Frank and secular journey

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through his life discovering and and

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another thing evidence of corruption

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deceit and dishonesty

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but he mostly uses experiences to

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educate inform now as far as the

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paranormal goes is say that he deals in

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spiritual healing in check

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martial arts are Frank's main focus and

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he leaves his students always wanting

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more

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now I'm free I'm Betty proud to call

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Frank a friend of mine his he's been a

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great help over there so a year or so

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we're certain the aspects which we

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weren't probably mates that you're into

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here but so will will see often that's a

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lot of talks and he does

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talks on the power of Chi auras

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reptilian agendas

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where do humans come from enemy of state

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that music and humans soul and also the

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history of UFOs and have quite a few

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other subjects all right so I'm now

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going to

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welcome Frank Lewis welcome to show

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Frank oh thank you David and thank you

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for having me and a lot of everybody out

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there it's an absolute pleasure my

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friend yeah as I say you've you've been

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a great help to me over the last boy as

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you know in a certain subjects over

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where we'll touch on that we'll see but

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I suppose really what what Betty brought

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you into the paranormal universe if you

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like to what raised your interest you

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were in the rotation Army weren't you

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and you had some sort of a really

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supernatural experience there didn't you

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yeah was crazy Android does a lot of

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things your mind so I can't really

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explain what really did up and fizzled

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and we had a firefight and it was with

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what I now believe would graze at the

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time we thought he would pygmies you

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know and he it was all it was all I

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could dream white state but the the only

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difference between a dream and what was

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happening was we did expend a lot of

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ammunition were the cartridges when we

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don't know there was no sign of the

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firefight but the ammunition was gone so

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it was very surreal and I took his there

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don't know what happened I ever look for

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answers I've not found any if I open a

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door this time no more doors to open and

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you know it really is a rabbit always

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the paranormal but it started with me

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when I was a kid you know probably used

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to talk to spirit in the bedroom when we

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were kids so I was aware of it like then

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and it weren't told I got to about 18 19

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I was a party one night and one of the

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lads he was sat next to me and he said

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while them rainbows coming out the

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stereo speakers a lot nice thoroughly

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and I walked in in my way why do you see

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him as well and he went yeah you know

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when I say Cassady

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all right well I've not had any acid and

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he goes well you see him anyway yeah

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he's like energy waves or seeing it you

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know see auras you know I didn't know

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they were rewards at the time I just

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called them by the Ready Brek man

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of a dog but I think nobody was and it

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was that point I realized I was very

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different to a lot of other people you

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know Kasumi went into a long

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conversation about things you know and

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especially about the effects of drugs on

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the human Mali which jump still

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fascinated with to this day you know

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after being a social worker and the

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pharmaceutical industry and what he's

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really doing to human beans hmm like the

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sort of things you have be mixed up in

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if you've got quite a colorful life

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haven't you yeah it's all I can say is

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it made me who I am now and I'm happy

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with who I am now but I do have a unique

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perspective on things

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you know I will see things other people

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don't and look how did you say that I

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know I well just like my kind of logic

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is such a word they said everybody's

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logic their logic and you know

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everybody's truth is the truth we're all

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unique but when you get the odd

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individual it comes out with things and

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everybody's looking around at each other

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going what you know we can smell

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unfortunately there's these kind of

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people around hmm you know you can only

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feel though a wise man once yeah yeah

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well as we know we've sort of been

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having to quite a bit over the last

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couple of years we've with a certain

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person but you're you're as passionate

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as me about honesty well truth and

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honesty as far as we can get it I mean

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everyone can be fooled like you say but

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once you do realize you've been forged

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you don't like it at all

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is one thing I'm very very passionate

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about is freedom and you know the way

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I've seen the last 12 months of God's

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discerned people who are journalists

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they so happy to silence and censor

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people which is a mockery of the freedom

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of speech hmm you know I if the troops

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are truth then it doesn't hurt people

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well it doesn't and fortunately you know

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truth does hurt but the truth remains

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and it always will be the truth so when

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you try suppressing or distorting or

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tell lies ensures up and eventually

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these people get caught out hmm and one

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of the first signs of them panicking is

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when they go on the offensive mm-hmm you

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know the best form of Defense is to go

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on the offensive and that's what we've

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seen at the moment you know some of the

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aspects you and I are involved it it's a

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very sad reflection of mainstream

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journalism yeah Parker with you there

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yeah you know I I said I saw I first

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done growing up you know in Rhodesia it

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was very very different from South

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African apartheid but do is distill off

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that division of black and white but the

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the education I had even though it was a

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good education it was biased towards the

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white man and a very good example was

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Zimbabwe ruins we were taught dolly was

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probably built by Portuguese explorers

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now the true history of it is still

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being on earth they were definitely the

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black man of Africa and there was a

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massive trading empire in Africa and

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Zimbabwe ruins was part of it so that

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was a part of history which was hidden

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from a censored so you know so he

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brought up on that icon of why it's like

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yeah I'm not the only one

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everybody is guilty of it

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you know when I came to this country I

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was amazed that I knew more about

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British history and people my own age

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did you know they went every towards it

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so you know we do live under censorship

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and it starts from the day were born

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yeah but what year was it easy to come

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to this country friend at first in 1973

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or October 1973 right so you spent a

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good few years over here is that you

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what's that full yield of yeah yeah yeah

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Massimo yeah it's just that some people

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may be puzzled by cuz if your ex in is

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quite a northern you're a northern UK

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accident and you were born in Rhodesia I

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think we ought to clear that not just

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you know put some people are wondering

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because you've all gave you've look cuz

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you've got so long over here you just

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sort of develop the ex in having you

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yeah we all the road he does you know my

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interested interestingly when I was a

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social worker I I got a I used to work

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with adults with learning disabilities

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for a client and within half an hour

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meeting the speech therapist she turned

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around to me and she said you're from

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Bulawayo aren't you how do you work that

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out she says the certain words you say

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you know can pick your accent or only it

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was stuff like you know in up knock will

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say they'll say it master but I'll say

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master and it's just little things like

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that we you know what change yeah

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because it's something else all be

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interested me I'll get that you know

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what you you came over I know you've

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been here quite a long time but sir

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you know um my father was English it was

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from Preston my mother she was Irish so

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my father always since he did national

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service in ridicu army he's always ad

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she fate and I was a kid we moved around

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a lot and I went to think was 15 schools

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I went to because we moved around day

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mainly in South Africa you know I've let

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so when he decided well it was me more

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there really she wanted to come back to

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the UK so they came back to Preston and

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I came with them and I'll ever settled

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so but I got an apprenticeship as soon

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as the apprenticeship was over I went

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back to Raleigh Jie you know I was

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homesick book in the change so

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drastically they ended up in the Army I

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volunteered so you know I changed my

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life but it put me on the path and I

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think I'm on the right path

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hmm you know so this introduction so in

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the Army did you start developing only

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interested in the martial arts or and

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she actually yeah yeah in inside she had

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already done a bit of kungfu with a

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master over in Blackburn called Gary

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Gordon they're one of my friends at the

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time Cresselia he was like slashing

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comfort he took me along and I enjoyed

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it but we were in an abbey of going

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training for a few I was a nun going

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again he totally drunk

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it was my point was and the day after

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I'm forgetting what we'd learn so you

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know it is for my interest but when I

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was in the Army I was watching an

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American veteran who joined the obvious

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and he was doing Tai Chi so I was like

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curious because I'd seen it before so he

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started taking me I don't after the army

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obviously I learnt a few or non combat

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techniques and stuff but after the army

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I got just I took it on board very

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seriously and I'm now obviously a master

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but I'm 750 great whites I hmm

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so you know I've got it I I'm I only

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teach for students now you know

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privately their friends hmm he came up

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hull a few year ago it's quite funny

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really because one of them's I think

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he's 41 now and you're the three they're

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all like young lads 24 25 but this one

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night we were we were out and obviously

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we're in a young person's place and one

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of them said to me said Robert keeps

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looking at you and I way I actually

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she's bonny girl how ain't she over in a

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minute she's over talking to me

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so all these lads are like how did he do

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that that's like cheating isn't it I'm

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going nah I think telling me was it or

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longer but you know I just said no I

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don't know he's not the Gino here in a

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week later the same thing happened again

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and they were like nicely did she

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teaches Tai Chi so I did I started

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teaching them but we're at a point now

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where they're interested in the healings

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I love it and they're interested

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certainly in the paranormal side of it

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and experiencing spirit and Goff's and

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things hmm you know I was like jag I

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teach him every Wednesday night and

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tonight there's a guy coming around he's

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got bad bike so they're gonna do healing

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on him they don't know yet but that's

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the plan

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interesting yeah no he came about two

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years ago and you know same thing bad

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bike he only had the one session and

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he's never had a problem seems to like

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couple weeks ago so you know what it

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whatever I'm teaching these logic is

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right they're doing it you know so with

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cheat you actually understand what it is

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you're doing or was it something within

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you that some that you can't explain

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part of its something within me because

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I've listened to everybody else you know

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the top he was and stuff and it I'm not

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gonna slag them off or say the wrong

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because he's their journey and he's

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their understanding of what it is but

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some of it I do laugh at you know they

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it's like everything else you get you

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sick snake oil salesman in it here but

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for anybody I will say it comes from

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within

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hmm whatever you wanna call it you call

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it up because I mean your video copy now

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I'm gonna put this on I should put a

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link to the the video on my paranormal

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dimension site yeah the listeners page

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you going through those tiles I just it

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just looks the impossible possible

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any possible thing to do or it would be

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for me anyway but which I see you do you

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seem to just slice through it like

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butter and it just it's just

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unbelievable really because you've got

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to world records I've been there once

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for the year breaking tiles and the

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other ones for the chopsticks to your

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throat isn't it yeah which is a another

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scary thing that you think that would go

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through most people throat what you did

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Oh couple years ago demonstrated either

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prob conference where I had a lady hold

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the sword against my throat I pushed him

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by audience she fell over I can't be a

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thing about it's just a look at some of

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your videos I'll say yeah when you were

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standing on your fingers as well and

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laning against the walk really hurts me

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fingers just looking at it yeah that's

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what I'm saying it's something some sort

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of a weird boy to me it's some sort of a

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paranormal power I can't put it any

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other way so what's that unless we've

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all got it but we don't know how to

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manipulate you use it is that it would

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that be the case I don't know yeah well

359
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I do it through the martial arts and

360
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food healing where I'm controlling and

361
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manipulating it and you know to protect

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my body and then projecting

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to hurt somebody or heal one your eyes I

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mean can you imagine meeting somebody

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like a and concrete slab no that's what

366
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I'm saying it's so killin yeah you know

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it's and that's where a lot of the

368
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degree of control comes in from your own

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point of view doesn't it that's right

370
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yeah you know you just got to have a

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locker being a piece to praveen you

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everything otherwise it's one of the big

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we have one of the big test for me he

374
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was going through my last divorce hmm

375
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I was pushed to the limit by quite a few

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people but especially my ex-wife and I

377
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didn't do what anybody was expecting you

378
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know I him

379
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even now people said to me God you went

380
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through hell but you just like smiled

381
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and the answer is I wasn't playing there

382
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again hmm

383
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you know the day she left that was it it

384
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was longer and I know where you're

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coming from brother because I've ever

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thought that myself it's easy to yeah

387
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it's actually carried an attachment with

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you hmm

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it was like nah I've got to practice

390
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what I preach and put my martial arts

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into practice you know peace of mind

392
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you stick arm in your mind you're gonna

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win whatever hmm you know I did and I

394
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did you know okay uh I've not seen my

395
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three youngest children since then but

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hmm in my mind and in my heart I want

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because I didn't react the way she

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wanted me to you know at the end of I

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think she wanted me to react in a

400
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negative way

401
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hmm get me arrested and Garcia solved

402
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yet blah blah blah Bly's violent and all

403
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this which she's not telling my youngest

404
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door is to beat my youngest daughter

405
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it's like disgusting and lock and you

406
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get ya know it might be quite feel quite

407
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saying that so you really told me about

408
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your your children yeah you know it's um

409
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it's not any of these thing to go

410
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through is it it's so content no you

411
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know I just really really no matter how

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bad a person you are and you're not in

413
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any way shape or form but say it nobody

414
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deserves that oh all my friends even you

415
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was Bob they'd be like even our own

416
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parents did do I can't believe what she

417
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put me through and didn't stop in me

418
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saying that kids cuz then kids went

419
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everywhere with me

420
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mmm you know if I just went to shop

421
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they'd come to shop with me if I went

422
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off to a martial arts conference they

423
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came with me you know they they were

424
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part of me so she wanted to hurt me and

425
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that was the only way she could do it

426
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so yes Andrea if you listening you did

427
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hurt me I hope you're happy

428
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well well if she is listening in them

429
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that's right this is nothing I can say

430
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to make anything any easier for you but

431
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you know you know a thought something

432
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with you yeah people don't know about

433
00:21:53,019 --> 00:21:50,779
this story that's not it's not nice it's

434
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not and you know I'm not the only one

435
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that's going through it no now of course

436
00:22:01,119 --> 00:21:58,639
you know at the time somebody handed me

437
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a video recorded it from the say they

438
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and it was Bob Geldof he was going

439
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through a very similar thing and he

440
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started questioning you know family law

441
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in the judiciary and the way it was

442
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going and yeah it was what happened

443
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tonight so if I'm a man of his stature

444
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and money yeah if it can happen to him

445
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it can up to any of us saw yeah oh no no

446
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and it did but it got me interesting in

447
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law and you know I have a quite a good

448
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understanding now of law and were we

449
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stand within English common law and the

450
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action statutes that are enforced upon

451
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us yeah that's something that's quite

452
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mind-blowing it the things we actually

453
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don't know what

454
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out there what we can actually do about

455
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things which we don't we just stand up

456
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on standby and let them do it a lot

457
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really a lot of the time yeah you know

458
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it's one of the first things I chuckled

459
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was the council tax and looking at that

460
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hmm

461
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it's actually unlawful it's not illegal

462
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but it's unlawful and there's a

463
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difference between lawful and legal when

464
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you get your head round that you can do

465
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something about it no for most people

466
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the first contact with being on the

467
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wrong side of the law only get arrested

468
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or just like say a motoring offense

469
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where the police pull you over no go

470
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right now I'm going to report you for

471
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you Bob tire on your car

472
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do you understand and the minute you say

473
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yes I understand you've gone into a

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contract and you've formed a joiner and

475
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that's where the of you then because you

476
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know to stand or be in they don't speak

477
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English they speak legalese hmm the

478
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trickier into it dude you're not better

479
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than highway robbers on the highway we

480
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just got a really nice way of doing it

481
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and everybody thinks it's the right way

482
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essentially it's not hmm I mean I mean

483
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the thing is that what can you actually

484
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I think most people would be sort of too

485
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frightened to sort of deal with that

486
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that wouldn't know you know you know

487
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will you just say yes sir bit three

488
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baseball sir

489
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and sort of just let them do what they

490
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do I suppose if you said nothing I

491
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suppose that would make the difference

492
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with it you know we're yeah because you

493
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ask any barrister or worldwide they'll

494
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say do not talk to the police

495
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hmm simply you open your mouth you

496
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making a commitment and you you're gonna

497
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:01,130
you're not obliged to say anything but

498
00:25:05,389 --> 00:25:03,450
if you do say you know that's that's

499
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where that comes from is it doesn't

500
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correct that yeah and another thing most

501
00:25:14,330 --> 00:25:11,760
people don't get around is when you do

502
00:25:17,419 --> 00:25:14,340
get arrested you're taken into

503
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protective custody and that comes back

504
00:25:24,110 --> 00:25:20,340
from the days of like mob rule and

505
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lynchings we can stub all he would move

506
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in and arrest you for your protection

507
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and Stu protective custody so the of an

508
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obligation once you're arrested not to

509
00:25:48,049 --> 00:25:45,600
take you in a bit you a couple of

510
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degrees Avenue in engineering and Social

511
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Work and education apprenticeship in

512
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engineering pattern making that gave me

513
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a very strong interest in mythology

514
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which is where I have my mondegreen and

515
00:26:12,590 --> 00:26:10,860
Salahi right because there is that

516
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:12,600
there's a paranormal aspects of emitter

517
00:26:16,129 --> 00:26:15,090
emits the memo I'll say mister mister

518
00:26:21,139 --> 00:26:16,139
ology is it

519
00:26:23,810 --> 00:26:21,149
yeah mythology yeah yeah I remember

520
00:26:28,039 --> 00:26:23,820
going to see a psychic the years ago I

521
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:28,049
was in our finger sure he was he was

522
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called Tom I think you would call and he

523
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:33,450
just said to me you're an alchemist yeah

524
00:26:36,049 --> 00:26:34,320
that's what I was going to say The

525
00:26:37,490 --> 00:26:36,059
Alchemist third part of it comes into it

526
00:26:40,629 --> 00:26:37,500
while looking at him up or how do you

527
00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:40,639
work that out you know how to use metals

528
00:26:50,990 --> 00:26:45,510
and I was like wow or impress me you

529
00:26:54,409 --> 00:26:51,000
know especially without there so there's

530
00:26:58,580 --> 00:26:54,419
a program on the TV and on the internet

531
00:27:01,480 --> 00:26:58,590
now called forged in fire oh I watch it

532
00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:01,490
really Jesus Leon loved it hmm you know

533
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:04,769
I just like working with metals but

534
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:06,450
especially that because they're making

535
00:27:12,220 --> 00:27:08,960
edged weapons which eases

536
00:27:14,770 --> 00:27:12,230
one of my hobbies you know obviously

537
00:27:21,070 --> 00:27:14,780
with martial arts and swords and stuff

538
00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:21,080
yeah yeah yeah he's interested I don't

539
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:22,910
really know much about the alchemy side

540
00:27:27,070 --> 00:27:24,320
of it but I know there was some sort of

541
00:27:28,450 --> 00:27:27,080
a kind of a paranormal connection to

542
00:27:31,570 --> 00:27:28,460
whether you call that how can we a

543
00:27:36,430 --> 00:27:31,580
paranormal operation I don't know but

544
00:27:41,140 --> 00:27:36,440
it's a it got to the blacksmith or the

545
00:27:43,660 --> 00:27:41,150
forger working the metal oh let's just

546
00:27:45,490 --> 00:27:43,670
take these samurai sword because

547
00:27:49,090 --> 00:27:45,500
everybody knows what the summer I saw it

548
00:27:51,850 --> 00:27:49,100
is and the metal worker will fold it

549
00:27:53,890 --> 00:27:51,860
thousands of times to get different

550
00:27:58,990 --> 00:27:53,900
waves to get so they'll give a decent

551
00:28:02,440 --> 00:27:59,000
edge but in it he's putting his spirit

552
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:02,450
or his Chi into well into the working of

553
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:02,810
it

554
00:28:11,260 --> 00:28:08,570
said by many people they'll pick up a

555
00:28:15,450 --> 00:28:11,270
samurai sword and they can feel the

556
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:15,460
energy of it but it's the same with any

557
00:28:21,370 --> 00:28:19,490
edged weapon if it's made correctly with

558
00:28:25,270 --> 00:28:21,380
the love and the spirit of the

559
00:28:26,860 --> 00:28:25,280
blacksmith his energies in it no that's

560
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:26,870
when I get the legend of Excalibur

561
00:28:34,290 --> 00:28:30,010
things are there isn't it maybe yeah I

562
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:34,300
believe that the legend of Excalibur was

563
00:28:41,580 --> 00:28:38,320
you know I King Arthur withdrew it from

564
00:28:45,850 --> 00:28:41,590
from the storm but he used to cast

565
00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:45,860
bronze swords installed so maybe that's

566
00:28:51,220 --> 00:28:48,710
where the legend comes from there's some

567
00:28:54,970 --> 00:28:51,230
fascinating stuff in it frankly sir you

568
00:28:58,570 --> 00:28:54,980
know what you want to talk a bit about

569
00:29:00,280 --> 00:28:58,580
your spiritual healing or because I are

570
00:29:01,890 --> 00:29:00,290
you also distant ghost hunts and things

571
00:29:04,510 --> 00:29:01,900
I'm not going to connect the two but

572
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:04,520
obviously spirit comes in through a lot

573
00:29:14,590 --> 00:29:09,490
of what you do I first really embraced

574
00:29:18,130 --> 00:29:14,600
who I was spiritually within six months

575
00:29:20,350 --> 00:29:18,140
I was doing tarot readings and spirit

576
00:29:23,980 --> 00:29:20,360
you know clairvoyant readings that

577
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:23,990
like occurs and it was at one psychic

578
00:29:29,980 --> 00:29:27,110
fair I might be dead with roughly he was

579
00:29:32,890 --> 00:29:29,990
a spiritual healer and he was working

580
00:29:34,890 --> 00:29:32,900
around the aura of a this woman and it

581
00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:34,900
were fascinating miss I was watching it

582
00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:39,200
so afterwards when we were packing away

583
00:29:45,130 --> 00:29:40,990
our know it talking to him and I said

584
00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:45,140
were you working on the Qi and he goes

585
00:29:48,490 --> 00:29:46,910
yeah whatever you want to call it you

586
00:29:51,130 --> 00:29:48,500
know I was working on their energy I'm a

587
00:29:52,510 --> 00:29:51,140
healer fascinating because I was

588
00:29:55,870 --> 00:29:52,520
watching you and I was watching the

589
00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:55,880
colors change and what he was doing so

590
00:30:02,260 --> 00:29:59,120
he it was like all dear hands of Hope so

591
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:02,270
he felt my G and he said you got very

592
00:30:08,650 --> 00:30:05,360
powerful Chi can I teach you spiritual

593
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:08,660
healing so I could the long story short

594
00:30:15,310 --> 00:30:10,970
yes he did and took them talk too few

595
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:15,320
years after it I thought probably about

596
00:30:21,490 --> 00:30:19,610
20 people healing since then but also at

597
00:30:24,549 --> 00:30:21,500
that same time I was doing oh what a

598
00:30:28,090 --> 00:30:24,559
ghost haunting and I did some girls on

599
00:30:33,669 --> 00:30:28,100
team we Jess and Karl it was the first

600
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:33,679
presenter on more started the he asked

601
00:30:36,850 --> 00:30:35,330
me what I do it boy

602
00:30:39,549 --> 00:30:36,860
i struggling through the divorce at the

603
00:30:43,030 --> 00:30:39,559
time I'm glad was trashed so I didn't

604
00:30:49,090 --> 00:30:43,040
want to make any kind of commitment but

605
00:30:52,030 --> 00:30:49,100
yeah did the road he's taking me down

606
00:30:55,930 --> 00:30:52,040
has made me realize and now physics back

607
00:30:59,140 --> 00:30:55,940
this up that the universe that we see

608
00:31:01,270 --> 00:30:59,150
and feel around this is only part of a

609
00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:01,280
multi universe multi-dimensional

610
00:31:09,390 --> 00:31:06,080
universe and the Higgs boson particle or

611
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:09,400
the god particle proves this hmm that

612
00:31:12,220 --> 00:31:11,510
there are things outside of this

613
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:12,230
universe

614
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:15,440
hmm a couple of cell or a couple of

615
00:31:20,830 --> 00:31:17,360
miles before a so that's the reason I

616
00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:20,840
named this show you know what dimensions

617
00:31:24,909 --> 00:31:23,270
because of that I've quite I feel quite

618
00:31:27,070 --> 00:31:24,919
strongly about the dimension of excess

619
00:31:29,850 --> 00:31:27,080
spectrum everything but sorry Elijah

620
00:31:32,090 --> 00:31:29,860
dying strapped is interrupted no he's

621
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:32,100
right

622
00:31:36,670 --> 00:31:35,250
you know people I've taught psyche to

623
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:36,680
over the years

624
00:31:42,170 --> 00:31:39,600
the sooner related he starts to

625
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:42,180
experience what everybody would call a

626
00:31:48,770 --> 00:31:45,410
paranormal hmm I just call it normal

627
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:48,780
well yeah I mean it's normal so some of

628
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:51,210
us isn't it you know it's yeah I think

629
00:31:56,090 --> 00:31:52,650
it's only parent or what are the people

630
00:31:58,130 --> 00:31:56,100
that kind of only outside a bit really

631
00:31:59,510 --> 00:31:58,140
yeah I think they like to call it

632
00:32:03,770 --> 00:31:59,520
paranormal because they're actually

633
00:32:05,810 --> 00:32:03,780
scared of it yeah you know it's there's

634
00:32:07,970 --> 00:32:05,820
something within the human psyche if

635
00:32:09,950 --> 00:32:07,980
they don't know what it is they're

636
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:09,960
instantly scared of it yes I'm a

637
00:32:18,110 --> 00:32:16,170
paranormal or abnormal yeah so usually

638
00:32:19,550 --> 00:32:18,120
you get the laughter you know nice Oh

639
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:19,560
nervous laugh hmm

640
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:22,170
but yeah the people I've been teaching

641
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:24,960
and that you know you get the odd one or

642
00:32:30,860 --> 00:32:27,810
come on god I saw colors around that

643
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:30,870
person like that's you or you start to

644
00:32:36,140 --> 00:32:34,080
see as well as feel it and they're like

645
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:36,150
wow and then we thought this would exist

646
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:39,090
you know I'm blown away

647
00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:42,110
the older I've got I've realized that

648
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:46,350
it's you know again it's not that

649
00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:48,960
paranormal it is normal for human beings

650
00:32:54,650 --> 00:32:52,080
to be this way hmm I mean I could I've

651
00:32:57,050 --> 00:32:54,660
seen auras myself but I can't see colors

652
00:33:00,680 --> 00:32:57,060
all I can see is like a gray like a gray

653
00:33:04,370 --> 00:33:00,690
shape around people when you start keep

654
00:33:06,050 --> 00:33:04,380
practicing yeah yeah I suppose that's

655
00:33:07,970 --> 00:33:06,060
pretty easy that yeah it's the suppose

656
00:33:10,370 --> 00:33:07,980
if you keep practicing year after year

657
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:10,380
it would get better but some I didn't

658
00:33:14,150 --> 00:33:12,450
know what you mean about your it quite I

659
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:14,160
was quite amazed bought myself the first

660
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:17,730
time I saw it you know yeah it is

661
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:22,320
actually arising you know like you said

662
00:33:27,650 --> 00:33:25,440
up there example last week we do group

663
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:27,660
the lights I'm teaching one of them

664
00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:30,810
sensitive spirit what came into the room

665
00:33:35,540 --> 00:33:31,500
mm-hm

666
00:33:37,210 --> 00:33:35,550
so you know he he's got that open mind

667
00:33:41,770 --> 00:33:37,220
for it

668
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:41,780
he's analytical which is good but he has

669
00:33:47,350 --> 00:33:44,210
eye open mind and he stayed sucks for

670
00:33:50,260 --> 00:33:47,360
you and say hi but people do hmm

671
00:33:53,340 --> 00:33:50,270
and people are frightened to talk about

672
00:33:57,700 --> 00:33:53,350
it as well because I get a lot of people

673
00:34:00,250 --> 00:33:57,710
will come to me and they'll say I mean

674
00:34:02,410 --> 00:34:00,260
father died on my wife died dolls been

675
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:02,420
dying whatever and then three four

676
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:04,880
nights later he came in bedroom and sat

677
00:34:10,450 --> 00:34:07,730
on my bed and I could feel one more I

678
00:34:13,450 --> 00:34:10,460
could smell and or could actually see

679
00:34:15,070 --> 00:34:13,460
them and a lot of people experienced up

680
00:34:18,670 --> 00:34:15,080
but the two friends who even tell their

681
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:18,680
own family the fear of ridicule and I

682
00:34:25,420 --> 00:34:22,370
also found this we reptilians well now

683
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:25,430
our first experience one anand spoke

684
00:34:32,860 --> 00:34:29,570
about it all the people say speaking

685
00:34:35,590 --> 00:34:32,870
about it and a lot a lot of people come

686
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:35,600
to me for help because they live a

687
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:38,690
problem we reptilians you know I can't

688
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:41,450
really help them but half the time just

689
00:34:48,730 --> 00:34:44,050
by talking about it and accepting that

690
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:48,740
they are a real phenomenon people get a

691
00:34:56,980 --> 00:34:53,210
bit of Solace from it but I've met three

692
00:34:59,650 --> 00:34:56,990
independent people David who were all ex

693
00:35:03,910 --> 00:34:59,660
Paris you know a British partying

694
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:03,920
British parachute regiment and did none

695
00:35:08,530 --> 00:35:05,930
of them knew each other but the earth

696
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:08,540
spoke of an island up in Scotland and

697
00:35:14,820 --> 00:35:12,560
only Joe spoke of reptilians and I was

698
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:14,830
like just blown away

699
00:35:22,050 --> 00:35:19,010
one of them committed suicide he said

700
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:22,060
the reptilians were after him

701
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:26,930
which was very sad it was his mom who

702
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:29,690
got in touch with me first asked me if

703
00:35:35,410 --> 00:35:33,110
I'd help him I said I'll try but doing

704
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:35,420
nothing and then it was about two years

705
00:35:40,330 --> 00:35:37,850
later you hear on me it was about three

706
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:40,340
o'clock in the morning here on me out of

707
00:35:45,700 --> 00:35:43,850
the blue and said the reptilians were

708
00:35:46,980 --> 00:35:45,710
outside his room they were after getting

709
00:35:52,740 --> 00:35:46,990
him

710
00:35:57,450 --> 00:35:52,750
spot to the police he said the same

711
00:36:00,330 --> 00:35:57,460
thing so whatever was going on in his

712
00:36:01,980 --> 00:36:00,340
mind or whatever was happening it was

713
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:01,990
very real for him hmm

714
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:04,480
to the point where he did take his life

715
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:07,930
or and allegedly took his life because

716
00:36:14,490 --> 00:36:10,050
he was left down didn't he was a

717
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:14,500
right-handed cut across his table so we

718
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:17,770
don't know but I was the last person he

719
00:36:26,130 --> 00:36:23,880
mm-hmm

720
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:26,140
I was actually gonna lead you in so I

721
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:27,520
asked you about the reptilians but

722
00:36:33,570 --> 00:36:29,970
you've sort of let in suit yourself so

723
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:33,580
they do a very real phenomenon you know

724
00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:36,880
I did again it's this multi-dimensional

725
00:36:43,980 --> 00:36:40,510
universe these different species of

726
00:36:48,030 --> 00:36:43,990
reptilians some live on the plane we

727
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:48,040
live on underground different cultures

728
00:36:55,830 --> 00:36:50,650
around the world speak about and you

729
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:55,840
know another Sioux Indians had certain

730
00:37:03,599 --> 00:36:58,810
groups of warriors that went hunting for

731
00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:03,609
them at night not to kill them but then

732
00:37:05,870 --> 00:37:04,510
there's others which are

733
00:37:08,070 --> 00:37:05,880
multi-dimensional

734
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:08,080
the one I saw was certainly

735
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:11,890
multi-dimensional he came through the

736
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:14,890
body of the person in my lounge like

737
00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:18,580
shape-shifted so I saw that plain as day

738
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:22,270
and he was just it's mind-blowing really

739
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:24,850
actually see it so what I actually like

740
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:26,890
to in your mind are they actually link

741
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:28,810
to somebody permanently or do they come

742
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:32,650
through on occasion from from another

743
00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:36,910
dimension you don't know I don't know

744
00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:40,000
but the research you've been doing do

745
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:42,070
you like a certain blood group which is

746
00:37:49,730 --> 00:37:47,890
racist negative they seem to be more

747
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:49,740
attached to people without blood group

748
00:37:55,010 --> 00:37:52,090
you know our victim said I mention the

749
00:38:02,650 --> 00:38:00,140
I I also know that they go after young

750
00:38:07,730 --> 00:38:02,660
girls and a blond-haired blue-eyed

751
00:38:09,980 --> 00:38:07,740
before puberty which did this is a

752
00:38:12,580 --> 00:38:09,990
really horrible shy love it hmm

753
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:12,590
he will they will eat the flesh of them

754
00:38:18,290 --> 00:38:15,090
because they put them through an extreme

755
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:18,300
terror where they secrete in hormones

756
00:38:23,210 --> 00:38:21,450
and and all sorts of chemicals and he

757
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:23,220
start their reptilians thereafter and he

758
00:38:30,070 --> 00:38:25,770
will leave them you'll peel the flesh

759
00:38:33,410 --> 00:38:30,080
off off the children and even because

760
00:38:36,140 --> 00:38:33,420
spoken about some older there's many

761
00:38:39,980 --> 00:38:36,150
many people go missing over the planet

762
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:39,990
isn't there room every year you know do

763
00:38:47,990 --> 00:38:41,610
you think is a connection so that with

764
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:48,000
the reptilian in this I once met Dean

765
00:38:55,609 --> 00:38:52,890
Warwick he he actually dropped dead at

766
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:55,619
the Prague conference you know that

767
00:39:00,849 --> 00:38:57,119
which was right in front of me no I

768
00:39:04,970 --> 00:39:00,859
heard of yeah six feet from me but I

769
00:39:07,550 --> 00:39:04,980
spoke to him about the reptilians and he

770
00:39:11,210 --> 00:39:07,560
came out with a figure and I think it

771
00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:11,220
was not point naught naught six of the

772
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:14,310
population goes missing in any part of

773
00:39:21,260 --> 00:39:19,200
the world hmm and I was like fascinated

774
00:39:23,420 --> 00:39:21,270
that there's an exact figure of the

775
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:23,430
population goes missing hmm yeah I never

776
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:24,960
seen again that just disappear off the

777
00:39:33,229 --> 00:39:27,119
face of the earth don't they yeah it's

778
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:33,239
um it's almost like a farm unit hmm

779
00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:38,650
yeah yeah until a failure so I thought

780
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:41,380
lost last week and she was talking about

781
00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:43,359
people like I'm missing in the national

782
00:39:51,979 --> 00:39:49,569
parks in American yeah you know and I've

783
00:39:53,999 --> 00:39:51,989
been fascinated with out recently yeah

784
00:39:59,519 --> 00:39:54,009
it wasn't last week it was a couple of

785
00:40:01,200 --> 00:39:59,529
weeks ago put yeah that's yeah it's

786
00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:01,210
actually quite scary I think Richard II

787
00:40:05,569 --> 00:40:03,369
halted at the documentary didn't he

788
00:40:08,130 --> 00:40:05,579
about some people who can be seen I

789
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:08,140
don't know aah coughing rooms called now

790
00:40:12,539 --> 00:40:10,210
but some that was quite a fascinating

791
00:40:14,670 --> 00:40:12,549
I'll have to look that up and you right

792
00:40:17,309 --> 00:40:14,680
see he's a shame I've not watched a lot

793
00:40:20,549 --> 00:40:17,319
of Richard deals work I watched even

794
00:40:23,839 --> 00:40:20,559
9/11 one and I was just like yeah this

795
00:40:26,249 --> 00:40:23,849
is brilliant research ya know he's a

796
00:40:27,690 --> 00:40:26,259
he's a good research I'd love to chunk

797
00:40:29,130 --> 00:40:27,700
it you on this show but we so it was

798
00:40:31,950 --> 00:40:29,140
very busy man I'm kind of see him

799
00:40:34,170 --> 00:40:31,960
thinking next month in them Norwich I

800
00:40:36,749 --> 00:40:34,180
think he's alright

801
00:40:42,539 --> 00:40:36,759
how much onic have a word with him a sip

802
00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:42,549
on game on yeah do a few more

803
00:40:48,779 --> 00:40:45,369
conferences daily no I'm walking for

804
00:40:51,479 --> 00:40:48,789
eternal home coming off yes yeah I mean

805
00:40:52,829 --> 00:40:51,489
anyone out there if you if you're

806
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:52,839
available to come to the Woodbridge

807
00:40:56,279 --> 00:40:54,249
conference so you can get tickets

808
00:40:58,670 --> 00:40:56,289
through me but Frank is gonna actually

809
00:41:01,799 --> 00:40:58,680
be our security man

810
00:41:05,849 --> 00:41:01,809
yeah we're come on it's too heavy

811
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:05,859
where's our security so I know I will

812
00:41:09,329 --> 00:41:07,450
put a link on not on the page I think

813
00:41:10,769 --> 00:41:09,339
for that as well I'll put a bit of a

814
00:41:12,930 --> 00:41:10,779
mention in for it I think it's about

815
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:12,940
time I haven't said much a bit on the on

816
00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:14,890
the paranormal dimensions page but I

817
00:41:18,209 --> 00:41:16,390
will put that on there now because I

818
00:41:20,789 --> 00:41:18,219
think we're sort of creeping towards it

819
00:41:22,979 --> 00:41:20,799
and the tickets are gradually selling I

820
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:22,989
think I think I've thought about so the

821
00:41:26,670 --> 00:41:24,640
particular so far so it's not bad going

822
00:41:30,539 --> 00:41:26,680
really consider is in September

823
00:41:33,420 --> 00:41:30,549
yeah you see it's gonna be an

824
00:41:36,779 --> 00:41:33,430
interesting one because yeah apart from

825
00:41:38,969 --> 00:41:36,789
Colonel is like Malcolm Sascha few

826
00:41:41,579 --> 00:41:38,979
others they're all interesting people

827
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:41,589
and other than a lot to put 200 G that's

828
00:41:44,859 --> 00:41:42,510
the yeah

829
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:44,869
obviously it's Colonel hot today but

830
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:48,240
like they're these these support cast if

831
00:41:53,780 --> 00:41:50,640
you like massage is gonna be quickly

832
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:53,790
quite a big present or I suppose she's

833
00:41:58,310 --> 00:41:55,050
do probably doing the second-biggest

834
00:42:04,370 --> 00:41:58,320
presentation on a on a certain aspects

835
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:04,380
of the fraud in the Aria fire so John's

836
00:42:10,340 --> 00:42:07,200
gonna be John Henson they wrote the book

837
00:42:13,130 --> 00:42:10,350
with Colonel holt and there's a second

838
00:42:15,050 --> 00:42:13,140
volume on his way he's gonna be doing so

839
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:15,060
little talks about the books and the

840
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:16,650
presentation of the book and everything

841
00:42:20,810 --> 00:42:19,650
so and you never know frankly what I

842
00:42:27,290 --> 00:42:20,820
would get you on the stage to give a

843
00:42:31,490 --> 00:42:27,300
couple of words but it will say that

844
00:42:34,910 --> 00:42:31,500
over the weekend I spoke at Prague when

845
00:42:38,450 --> 00:42:34,920
I got asked Laura that Larry who is

846
00:42:42,099 --> 00:42:38,460
running it out we know if some right she

847
00:42:47,930 --> 00:42:42,109
says say we want you to talk don't swear

848
00:42:50,980 --> 00:42:47,940
I promise the rebels were didn't I do

849
00:42:53,690 --> 00:42:50,990
get passionate sometimes I know

850
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:53,700
supporters do I will put your videos up

851
00:43:02,859 --> 00:42:55,770
on on the gun that's on the apparel

852
00:43:07,609 --> 00:43:05,690
yeah I know you can get really mad about

853
00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:07,619
stuff and you just can't help it can you

854
00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:12,510
and a particular magazine editor out

855
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:14,910
there who doesn't doesn't like you

856
00:43:31,310 --> 00:43:23,010
that's only can pickle really doesn't

857
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:31,320
look right to doubt freedom of speed you

858
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:35,130
don't know if you can speak the truth

859
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:36,810
but so I'll ignore it and go the other

860
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:43,920
way anyway there's a thing on the list

861
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:45,119
I've got you in front of me says where

862
00:43:53,090 --> 00:43:47,760
do humans come from so what does he mean

863
00:43:56,460 --> 00:43:53,100
Frank right fascinating subject is just

864
00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:56,470
like another pet king of mine is history

865
00:44:04,109 --> 00:43:59,440
and certainly the history of mankind is

866
00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:04,119
not what we've been told you know I grew

867
00:44:09,569 --> 00:44:07,359
up a Catholic so I had duck I'm in down

868
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:09,579
me you know the creationist side of it

869
00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:12,970
hmm but soon realized that way right

870
00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:15,359
well I saw you looking at history

871
00:44:21,870 --> 00:44:19,359
especially growing up in Rhodesia I was

872
00:44:24,839 --> 00:44:21,880
taught English history because he was an

873
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:24,849
English colony but there was not much

874
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:28,690
African history and if he's talking

875
00:44:35,130 --> 00:44:31,810
about Western history on Africa it's

876
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:35,140
only culinary year old you know the

877
00:44:43,890 --> 00:44:39,730
ignore the African side of it so but I

878
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:43,900
was also learning that from going out

879
00:44:47,609 --> 00:44:46,960
into the villages are you saw a good

880
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:47,619
neighbor

881
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:50,770
old London burg he went out into the

882
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:54,130
Kalahari quite a lot hunting and he used

883
00:44:59,400 --> 00:44:56,650
to take me with him sad stare with a son

884
00:45:03,000 --> 00:44:59,410
Bushmen and learn tracking and hunting

885
00:45:05,460 --> 00:45:03,010
skills and when I found water stuff I

886
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:05,470
Apple also learning the legends of them

887
00:45:12,050 --> 00:45:08,010
and were there believed they came from

888
00:45:14,010 --> 00:45:12,060
and that always stuck with me

889
00:45:15,569 --> 00:45:14,020
so when I start looking at other

890
00:45:17,790 --> 00:45:15,579
cultures around the world

891
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:17,800
the or believed that we came from the

892
00:45:28,980 --> 00:45:23,490
stars which is fascinating because the

893
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:28,990
archeology clearly shows that mankind is

894
00:45:37,410 --> 00:45:35,410
older than we are told ya you know it's

895
00:45:40,829 --> 00:45:37,420
easy to say I'll take the Great Pyramid

896
00:45:43,650 --> 00:45:40,839
but I'll not I'll take the Sumerian

897
00:45:46,980 --> 00:45:43,660
civilization he said that was the birth

898
00:45:51,059 --> 00:45:46,990
of civilization but it wasn't it was a

899
00:45:53,550 --> 00:45:51,069
very very complex civilization and it

900
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:53,560
did not just suddenly exist it had to

901
00:46:01,230 --> 00:45:56,770
evolve from something so there's at

902
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:01,240
least 10,000 years before that but some

903
00:46:07,010 --> 00:46:02,800
of the technologies around the world

904
00:46:09,810 --> 00:46:07,020
some of the ancient sites in mathematics

905
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:09,820
the logistics of building

906
00:46:15,810 --> 00:46:12,609
it came from a very very organised

907
00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:15,820
highly advanced civilization so we're a

908
00:46:22,740 --> 00:46:17,710
lot older than we actually are

909
00:46:24,810 --> 00:46:22,750
hmm now when you look at dirt myths and

910
00:46:28,109 --> 00:46:24,820
where we came from they're all same we

911
00:46:28,849 --> 00:46:28,119
came from the stars now it could just be

912
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:28,859
that

913
00:46:35,130 --> 00:46:32,770
I forget what he's called a Spurs hero

914
00:46:38,970 --> 00:46:35,140
or something basically like the young

915
00:46:41,820 --> 00:46:38,980
drama distrain where wife came from

916
00:46:45,090 --> 00:46:41,830
outer space on a comet and came here you

917
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:45,100
know in microbes and then he develops so

918
00:46:52,820 --> 00:46:50,050
I don't believe that but as for mankind

919
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:52,830
the missing link is there there's no

920
00:47:02,310 --> 00:46:58,570
definitive way we moved and when you do

921
00:47:05,099 --> 00:47:02,320
look at home or something the brain size

922
00:47:10,050 --> 00:47:05,109
the skeletal sized a lot has not evolved

923
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:10,060
hmm and joke around a nature like you've

924
00:47:13,980 --> 00:47:11,650
got sharks you've got crocodiles

925
00:47:17,940 --> 00:47:13,990
alligators they're not evolved in

926
00:47:21,210 --> 00:47:17,950
millions and millions of years people

927
00:47:25,140 --> 00:47:21,220
say well do they like the king of their

928
00:47:28,590 --> 00:47:25,150
environment now I'll say well what

929
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:28,600
environment is the human king of because

930
00:47:33,930 --> 00:47:31,170
wherever humans go we trash it

931
00:47:40,190 --> 00:47:33,940
but in archeology is not a sign of this

932
00:47:44,220 --> 00:47:40,200
rationing beyond 100,000 years ago hmm

933
00:47:46,859 --> 00:47:44,230
so you know I question where did we come

934
00:47:48,540 --> 00:47:46,869
from and I think we came from somewhere

935
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:48,550
else our space forever

936
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:51,010
yeah we're not we're not indigenous to

937
00:47:55,830 --> 00:47:54,010
this planet now I think a lot of the

938
00:47:57,630 --> 00:47:55,840
religions have got everything really

939
00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:57,640
confused as well ever no because I think

940
00:48:02,550 --> 00:48:00,880
they do actually refer to obviously they

941
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:02,560
do actually refer to outer space don't

942
00:48:07,590 --> 00:48:04,690
they in the idea especially in the Bible

943
00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:07,600
was his a when we'd God said let there

944
00:48:11,490 --> 00:48:09,670
be there be light everything he said she

945
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:11,500
talked about the planet so it's gotta be

946
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:14,850
off the planet somewhere yeah it's some

947
00:48:21,340 --> 00:48:18,730
the Indian leaders then they'd actually

948
00:48:26,930 --> 00:48:21,350
describe the solar system hmm

949
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:26,940
IRD knock yeah and and the because the

950
00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:29,280
Mount Mahabharata was all his sales as

951
00:48:36,260 --> 00:48:31,680
he is older than the Bible and the soda

952
00:48:39,260 --> 00:48:36,270
korone isn't it yes and they will talk

953
00:48:41,180 --> 00:48:39,270
about beans which you very much thought

954
00:48:44,210 --> 00:48:41,190
the same descriptions as God Jesus

955
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:44,220
Christ and a few others isn't yeah

956
00:48:48,590 --> 00:48:46,770
they've all got those some characters in

957
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:48,600
their Bibles which are thousands years

958
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:50,970
older and it seems like our later ones

959
00:48:55,490 --> 00:48:53,520
have been sort of adapted from that yeah

960
00:48:57,410 --> 00:48:55,500
hey I'll talk to Michael freely about

961
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:57,420
that actually the last gets that all the

962
00:49:04,220 --> 00:49:01,680
here it's so it's actually quite a sexy

963
00:49:06,380 --> 00:49:04,230
quite quite interesting subject if I

964
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:06,390
think also interesting hurts revi make

965
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:13,710
it a part too yeah it is I just take the

966
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:17,490
whole Egyptian hierarchy hmm Horus

967
00:49:22,670 --> 00:49:18,570
horizon

968
00:49:25,940 --> 00:49:22,680
you know I saw their yock yock or hey

969
00:49:29,630 --> 00:49:25,950
you got your kills you connect you with

970
00:49:32,890 --> 00:49:29,640
the solar system hey sir hmm you know

971
00:49:36,740 --> 00:49:32,900
there's too many coincidences yeah

972
00:49:38,300 --> 00:49:36,750
definitely yeah considering you've got

973
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:38,310
civilizations that didn't know each

974
00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:40,410
other on different sides of the planet

975
00:49:47,090 --> 00:49:42,480
but they've got similar types of beliefs

976
00:49:49,970 --> 00:49:47,100
and pictures they draw and and the

977
00:49:52,370 --> 00:49:49,980
structures they build huh yeah you know

978
00:49:53,590 --> 00:49:52,380
it's as I said it's a very fascinating

979
00:49:58,580 --> 00:49:53,600
subject

980
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:58,590
one of the symbols I connected with you

981
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:00,000
know different continents there's a

982
00:50:06,260 --> 00:50:04,530
spiral hmm it's like to this day nobody

983
00:50:11,660 --> 00:50:06,270
really knows what they were carving into

984
00:50:15,260 --> 00:50:11,670
rock what the spiral represents yeah now

985
00:50:18,860 --> 00:50:15,270
just amazing to me in Tai Chi it

986
00:50:25,970 --> 00:50:23,000
if he got to energy lines you know ley

987
00:50:33,230 --> 00:50:25,980
lines or dragon lines where they cross

988
00:50:36,170 --> 00:50:33,240
the the energy spirals upwards so he'll

989
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:36,180
feel like both ancient man you slightly

990
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:38,610
built places like stone and crossing

991
00:50:43,340 --> 00:50:41,040
over Leyland hmm you know they were

992
00:50:48,050 --> 00:50:43,350
trying to harness that energy meant an

993
00:50:50,060 --> 00:50:48,060
actual that's cheap yeah when you look

994
00:50:51,620 --> 00:50:50,070
at how happy those things are lifting

995
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:51,630
one on top of the other like that is

996
00:50:56,990 --> 00:50:54,210
some heavy things are the only mental

997
00:50:59,690 --> 00:50:57,000
face and absolutely how many you know

998
00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:59,700
what drove them to do that yeah it must

999
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:02,160
be something very very special for him

1000
00:51:09,260 --> 00:51:06,210
to do that yeah not just once either his

1001
00:51:11,090 --> 00:51:09,270
there's probably gonna meet them

1002
00:51:13,030 --> 00:51:11,100
gateways they're all this for about ten

1003
00:51:18,740 --> 00:51:13,040
years I mean I think something like that

1004
00:51:20,750 --> 00:51:18,750
yeah yeah and also the pyramids I mean

1005
00:51:25,940 --> 00:51:20,760
to be lucky and those great big chunks

1006
00:51:27,650 --> 00:51:25,950
of sandstone or wherever it is right the

1007
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:27,660
way up to the I mean I take it heavier

1008
00:51:30,980 --> 00:51:29,250
heavier the higher you go and why you

1009
00:51:34,610 --> 00:51:30,990
want to take him up as high as that I

1010
00:51:36,410 --> 00:51:34,620
it's just um yeah do you think I know

1011
00:51:39,170 --> 00:51:36,420
some sort of team has to come in sit out

1012
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:39,180
with who if it's a but building the

1013
00:51:46,070 --> 00:51:43,050
pyramids I've never been to Egypt but me

1014
00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:46,080
whoever Oliver yes he he spent three

1015
00:51:52,670 --> 00:51:49,920
months working on like a irrigation

1016
00:51:56,720 --> 00:51:52,680
scheme I think was part of the Prince of

1017
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:56,730
Wales thing he did or something no but

1018
00:52:01,250 --> 00:51:59,040
he was there three months and for one

1019
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:01,260
more the they took him realm Egypt and

1020
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:04,530
show them all sighs so he was the first

1021
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:08,310
one I really spark to about the actual

1022
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:11,730
scale of the Great Pyramid you know on

1023
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:13,650
for aggressive in stood at the bear so

1024
00:52:20,650 --> 00:52:16,650
there it's just like wow they're deep

1025
00:52:25,250 --> 00:52:20,660
them rock to the Wayne tons each yeah

1026
00:52:28,870 --> 00:52:25,260
did logistics if you go by what

1027
00:52:31,310 --> 00:52:28,880
scientists say it took 20 years to build

1028
00:52:33,170 --> 00:52:31,320
that means that one

1029
00:52:36,220 --> 00:52:33,180
blocks was placed every three minutes

1030
00:52:39,380 --> 00:52:36,230
hmm 24 hours a day seven days a week

1031
00:52:42,260 --> 00:52:39,390
that's quite a what'll save you see and

1032
00:52:45,050 --> 00:52:42,270
why would you why the manpower on the

1033
00:52:48,590 --> 00:52:45,060
purpose to do it why would you want to

1034
00:52:51,650 --> 00:52:48,600
do that yeah yeah that's why I can't get

1035
00:52:55,790 --> 00:52:51,660
my head round sometime for me yeah I

1036
00:52:58,100 --> 00:52:55,800
mean you can very J to like the

1037
00:53:01,640 --> 00:52:58,110
Victorian edge the Victorian age was

1038
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:01,650
where certain people write Brunel and

1039
00:53:07,970 --> 00:53:04,890
that rose to prominence and he started

1040
00:53:10,970 --> 00:53:07,980
building stuff like Preston where

1041
00:53:12,740 --> 00:53:10,980
Ireland is the parish museum there's a

1042
00:53:16,820 --> 00:53:12,750
guy called Irish built it for Preston

1043
00:53:19,550 --> 00:53:16,830
hmm now he compare that to the pyramid

1044
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:19,560
anything it's just it's like a drop in

1045
00:53:27,230 --> 00:53:23,370
the ocean yeah yeah well [\h__\h] you Lance

1046
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:27,240
and control and power that that Pharaoh

1047
00:53:37,550 --> 00:53:30,930
or whoever built that her roommate had

1048
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:37,560
was phenomenal hmm and white hmm yeah

1049
00:53:40,580 --> 00:53:38,850
the first person that got me interested

1050
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:40,590
no I saw that was obviously erich von

1051
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:42,450
daniken with these uh Chariots of the

1052
00:53:47,050 --> 00:53:44,010
Gods you know this would go I started

1053
00:53:49,850 --> 00:53:47,060
really thinking seriously back in about

1054
00:53:54,380 --> 00:53:49,860
1966 I think it was when it came to hell

1055
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:54,390
yeah but yes I don't know how you feel

1056
00:53:59,660 --> 00:53:56,640
about the ancient alien theory but so

1057
00:54:01,040 --> 00:53:59,670
I'm actually quite quite impressed but I

1058
00:54:03,350 --> 00:54:01,050
think I actually think there's a lot to

1059
00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:03,360
it I mean if every theory is not right

1060
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:05,310
obviously but this mistakes here and

1061
00:54:10,460 --> 00:54:08,250
there and Izzy's only theory but I think

1062
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:10,470
a lot of energy it Reggie's valid

1063
00:54:14,570 --> 00:54:12,240
questions absolutely it makes you think

1064
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:14,580
about it I mean even when Eric filmed

1065
00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:16,110
then it can rub the book you didn't say

1066
00:54:19,490 --> 00:54:17,730
Chariots of the Gods he put a question

1067
00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:19,500
mark on the end of it it's his question

1068
00:54:24,050 --> 00:54:21,660
you know it's not actually saying it was

1069
00:54:27,230 --> 00:54:24,060
a put some it's Denny shows you the

1070
00:54:29,530 --> 00:54:27,240
evidence oh well you know you just take

1071
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:29,540
like in the Great Pyramid the

1072
00:54:34,010 --> 00:54:31,250
sarcophagus

1073
00:54:36,890 --> 00:54:34,020
it's a massive blocker

1074
00:54:39,590 --> 00:54:36,900
I can't remember the exact name of the

1075
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:39,600
granite is made of but he's the second

1076
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:42,690
hardest substance on the planet and it's

1077
00:54:49,250 --> 00:54:44,130
been hollowed out

1078
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:49,260
yeah the he had to use at least damn tip

1079
00:54:54,620 --> 00:54:51,450
tools to do no he struggled with that

1080
00:54:56,930 --> 00:54:54,630
today wouldn't you yeah exactly

1081
00:55:04,550 --> 00:54:56,940
so where did you get that technology

1082
00:55:06,290 --> 00:55:04,560
from we've got I mean I don't you talk a

1083
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:06,300
lot about the history of UFOs I mean

1084
00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:08,850
whether you oh yes let's just talk about

1085
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:11,250
them domain the big case Roz will do you

1086
00:55:16,070 --> 00:55:12,930
what do you think about the Roswell case

1087
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:16,080
in the last couple of years we've got I

1088
00:55:25,250 --> 00:55:23,120
Roswell's interesting because what makes

1089
00:55:28,670 --> 00:55:25,260
it even more interesting is how the

1090
00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:28,680
press recorded it in the first 24 hours

1091
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:31,200
hmm and in a result then they took it

1092
00:55:36,530 --> 00:55:33,570
all the way again yeah yeah so that

1093
00:55:39,050 --> 00:55:36,540
obviously a conspiracies gonna be built

1094
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:39,060
up from that and people are going to ask

1095
00:55:47,420 --> 00:55:42,480
questions so whatever happened I don't

1096
00:55:49,580 --> 00:55:47,430
really know but I know of the

1097
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:49,590
overwhelming evidence in history shows

1098
00:55:54,050 --> 00:55:52,530
that it's been happening since Mon

1099
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:54,060
camera around yeah

1100
00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:55,290
yeah this thing's obviously before

1101
00:56:01,010 --> 00:55:58,410
before Roswell will agree with you won't

1102
00:56:04,300 --> 00:56:01,020
want to earliest incidences I can find

1103
00:56:07,010 --> 00:56:04,310
in histories a furrow in Egypt

1104
00:56:09,710 --> 00:56:07,020
describing them and I think he am for

1105
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:09,720
three days where the rod gets in the sky

1106
00:56:17,150 --> 00:56:12,450
and stuff hmm but he records at the

1107
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:17,160
healthy Mecca decision which is one of

1108
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:19,890
the theories where the he is oh my god

1109
00:56:23,930 --> 00:56:20,610
mankind

1110
00:56:25,720 --> 00:56:23,940
yeah there's also vzq stories everyone

1111
00:56:30,890 --> 00:56:25,730
knows about the wheels with him we also

1112
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:30,900
yeah and how many both the up visions

1113
00:56:38,770 --> 00:56:36,240
and saw UFOs do dip in there all the

1114
00:56:42,590 --> 00:56:38,780
time yeah you know in you looking

1115
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:42,600
history you're looking care or they did

1116
00:56:48,740 --> 00:56:44,610
did growing them the describing them

1117
00:56:52,220 --> 00:56:48,750
we're talking about you know they and I

1118
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:52,230
think the best analogy is the Lakota

1119
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:54,810
Sioux Indian they have a saying called

1120
00:57:00,380 --> 00:56:58,050
maitake erosion which means

1121
00:57:04,660 --> 00:57:00,390
all my relations and they talked about

1122
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:08,630
so they accept that nudists are people

1123
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:10,050
and the accent is multi-dimensional

1124
00:57:21,050 --> 00:57:18,570
means here indeed I know you've done

1125
00:57:25,150 --> 00:57:21,060
quite a few radio shows and systems and

1126
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:25,160
things you anything else lined up Frank

1127
00:57:32,210 --> 00:57:29,130
I'm doing conscious camping I think he's

1128
00:57:35,570 --> 00:57:32,220
in August down in Wales the I'm doing a

1129
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:35,580
Tai Chi workshop for that weekend all

1130
00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:38,010
right I'm thinking of doing a three hour

1131
00:57:44,750 --> 00:57:42,000
session on explaining who we are as a

1132
00:57:46,970 --> 00:57:44,760
human being before I go into doing some

1133
00:57:50,510 --> 00:57:46,980
practical Tai Chi and Qi Gong with them

1134
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:50,520
also some deep meditation because to

1135
00:57:55,310 --> 00:57:53,010
feel this in I'm gonna go there in a

1136
00:57:59,180 --> 00:57:55,320
collage camp in anyway I love it they're

1137
00:58:00,490 --> 00:57:59,190
just too nice for a cheese go down that

1138
00:58:02,660 --> 00:58:00,500
field

1139
00:58:04,190 --> 00:58:02,670
yeah well I'm amazed you've never

1140
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:04,200
written a book you know you should do

1141
00:58:11,900 --> 00:58:07,170
that you know I started writing one

1142
00:58:13,850 --> 00:58:11,910
about 15 year ago and realized that the

1143
00:58:16,010 --> 00:58:13,860
information oh god I'm gonna have to

1144
00:58:18,140 --> 00:58:16,020
write three or four books it's just

1145
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:18,150
knocking down yeah I'm really all do it

1146
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:19,680
frame while you're on this play my other

1147
00:58:26,060 --> 00:58:24,090
you should do it yeah you've got a lot

1148
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:26,070
of knowledge and information to put out

1149
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:28,530
there only things I have been thinking

1150
00:58:36,140 --> 00:58:32,880
about is selling the house and buying in

1151
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:36,150
a narrow Bock and living online ro bot

1152
00:58:47,390 --> 00:58:42,570
and luckily down range some bolt yeah

1153
00:58:51,050 --> 00:58:47,400
well you should do that well Frank I'm

1154
00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:51,060
really sorry we've run out of time it's

1155
00:58:54,620 --> 00:58:53,910
a fascinating though how we can do it

1156
00:58:58,190 --> 00:58:54,630
again sometime

1157
00:59:00,860 --> 00:58:58,200
but um yeah sure any time do you

1158
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:00,870
I mean you always welcome down my way

1159
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:03,930
you know that if you ever around but I'm

1160
00:59:08,510 --> 00:59:06,210
afraid we've got say goodbye to Frank

1161
00:59:11,180 --> 00:59:08,520
and thank you for everyone for listening

1162
00:59:13,070 --> 00:59:11,190
and I thank you

1163
00:59:16,580 --> 00:59:13,080
as I sell put some links on this site

1164
00:59:19,340 --> 00:59:16,590
and everything and buy boyfriend thank

1165
00:59:21,010 --> 00:59:19,350
you very much for coming on Julie and